This is an argument I am actually becoming accustomed to seeing in IntraLeft-Twitter.


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11 Responses to Erick Erickson, Keeping His Eye On The Ball

  1. RTod says:

    Why is complaining that a Jew is performing bigoted, offensive and disgusting, but this is just religious/theological banter?

    For that matter, why should I read this argument and *not* assume that having a Jew perform would be unacceptable to RedStaters? Pretty sure Jews also reject these things.

    • ScarletNumber says:

      You never answered me when I asked who was “the tough talking guy who hid behind an anonymous pseudonym” you were referring to?

      Also, I hope you are embarrassed by the way your site treated Maud Kelly back in August. I mean I was laughing at the dumpster fire that ensued, but you, Will, and Burt sure seemed upset. I agreed that Maud shouldn’t have had her daughter personally apologize to the Trump supporter whose property she defaced, if only because he could have made it into a police matter. Rather, I would have meted out a punishment at home.

  2. trumwill says:

    He says he would be okay with a Hindu. His stated issue is not so much that she isn’t a Christian, but that she is a fraud for pretending to be.

    I’m not sure what thing the Jew performing is in reference to.

    It’s worth noting that he also said that people who voted for Rubio in the primary were not Christian (and thus, frauds if they claimed they were). It’s where my attempts to “meet people where they are” (at least in terms of understanding) falls short.

    His intersection of politics and faith is just baffling to me.

    • RTod says:

      My point is that if you object to someone who doesn’t believe in the Trinity performing at what is basically a government ceremony, you’re objecting to a Jew performing — whether or not you’ve gone that extra step and identified their faith by name.

      • trumwill says:

        FWIW, here is his stated rationale:

        I’d rather a Hindu pray on Inauguration Day and not risk the souls of men, than one whose heresy lures in souls with promises of comfort only to damn them in eternity. At least no one would mistake a Hindu, a Buddhist, or an atheist with being a representative of Christ’s kingdom.

        So it seems to be particularly to “fake Christians.”

        Which I guess I can sort of understand why he would object more to her than to a Hindu or Jew, but it’s hard for me to not put all of it in the micromanaging of faith in politics in such a way that is anathema to us.

        OTOH, I am a bit discomforted by Ms White’s apparent relationship to Prosperity Gospel. So I’m not entirely sure what to make of that and whether or not I am being inconsistent.

        • RTod says:

          So, people who are Hindu, Buddhist, or atheist *are* saving souls in Erickson’s eyes?

          I’m sorry, I’m still not buying it. It’s a hodgepodge argument that only people whose religious beliefs are X are acceptable to give a prayer at the inauguration. That he chose to list off three beliefs that people who follow him find inconsequential and impossible to imagine actually being picked to perform such a service and passed right over the Jews was not, I believe, an accident of random choice.

          That he really wouldn’t’ have been bothered if a Hindu, Buddhist, or athirst represented the faithful on Inauguration day doesn’t come close to passing the sniff test.

        • RTod says:

          Thank you so much.

        • trumwill says:

          Well, I think he’s in the clear as far as a Jew is concerned. There will be a Jewish invocation and he doesn’t seem to mind.

          So I’m going to guess that this is at least partially about being a phony Christian rather than just being about being a non-Christian.

          Also, was surprised to hear this from Russell Moore:

          “Paula White is a charlatan and recognized as a heretic by every orthodox Christian, of whatever tribe,” echoed Russell Moore of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission.

          Still don’t know about Hindu. I do find it interesting that while he mentioned Hindu, Buddhist, and Atheist… no mention of Muslim.

  3. Gabriel Conroy says:

    Before I read the piece and the comments here, I had thought the person doing the invocation was a unitarian.

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