Zoey {Lapsed Catholic}: What are you, Will?

Trumwill {Episcopalian}: Episcopalian.

Zoey: Oh! Catholic but with gay priests!

Hiram {Catholic}: No, no, Catholic with openly gay priests. We have our fair share…

Zoey: True.

Hiram: And with Jim McGreevey.

Trumwill: Not a priest!

Hiram Jr. {Catholic?}: Yet!

Trumwill: No, he was denied! Even we have our standards.

Hiram: Anyway, so Catholicism with divorce, openly gay preachers, and a disregard for tradition.

Trumwill: Tradition tempered by reason. We like to say that God gave us the ability to reason for a reason.

Betsy {Baptist}: So you can ignore what the Bible actually says?

Trumwill: Scripture also tempered by reason.

Hiram: You’re a very tempered bunch.

Trumwill: It’s our trademark.


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7 Responses to Episcopalianism Defined

  1. Kirk says:

    We stopped going to church back before I entered kindergarten, so I don’t even know what I am. My USN dog-tags ended up saying “Prot(no pref)”. I wonder how many guys ended up with that.

    Anyway, I’m surprised that an extended family would talk about religion to that level of detail that yours did. I don’t think I’ve ever talked with my relatives about it.

  2. David Alexander says:

    Out of sheer curiosity, do you go to church every Sunday?

    Hiram: Anyway, so Catholicism with divorce, openly gay preachers, and a disregard for tradition.

    At the traditionalist blog that I visit, there seems to be this theory that Episcopalians make up things as they go along, and that they’re a bunch of wussy liberals.

    Of course, I know better. 🙂

  3. Mike Hunt says:

    Hiram: And with Jim McGreevey.

    I didn’t know my former governor was that famous.

    On a personal note, I am friendly with someone who is friendly was my state senator. Therefore, I found out about four hours before the rest of the world that McGreevey was a Gay American. Boy, if I could have taken bets during that time, I wouldn’t have to work anymore.

  4. trumwill says:

    McGreevey was overshadowed by Spitzer (and now Weiner), but some of us political geeks remember.

  5. Mike Hunt says:

    I (along with about 100 others) got to meet, speak with, and shake hands with McGreevey at Drumthwacket one afternoon in 2002. It was a pretty humbling experience.

    Drumthwacket is in Princeton, and is obviously the nicest house around. However, it isn’t THAT much nicer than the surrounding houses in the neighborhood. Then again, its resident probably makes less money than anyone else in the neighborhood…

  6. trumwill says:

    If you can say, what was the occasion?

    Then again, its resident probably makes less money than anyone else in the neighborhood…

    From official salary, anyway.

  7. Mike Hunt says:

    In my town I held an appointed official position. Only one per town.

    When McGreevey was first elected, he invited everyone in the state who held the same position to the governor’s mansion to talk to us about issues that we were facing.

    This is forgotten because of the way he left office, but the man was a great politician. Don’t forget, he managed to convince TWO women to not only marry him, but also bear him children…

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